Sump Refitting, Degreasing And Instant Gasket

[SilverBeast]

OK so I was stupid and put the wrong end of the siphon pipe for extracting the oil from the engine down the dipstick tube.  I pulled the wider section of host off the end of the pipe into the sump! > :(

 

OK so the sumps off and I have a tube of CarPlan gastite Multi-purpose Silicone Sealant instant gasket from Motor World (withstands -60 to +260 C and specifically mentions sumps!).  Incidentally this comes in a tube the same as you use for frame/bathroom sealant with a trigger dispenser.

 

Any recommendations for degreasing the surfaces.  Sump has been cleaned with petrol (I have a can left over for a Suffolk Punch lawnmower I still need to fix!).  Is petrol sufficient to degrease (albeit not particularly safe!) or can anyone recommend anything else I am likely to have at home?

 

The sealant instructions are a bit confusing as it says apply to to target surface and "Do Not handle for at least 30 minutes to allow or a tack-free skin to form" This seems to contradict the instructions in Haynes which say to assemble within 10 minutes (though that is for the Ford part).  Has anyone used this before? Should I leave it 30 minutes and then assemble, or assemble straight away? Obviously I don't want to have to do this again!

 

I intend to align locate all the bolts, without bringing the surfaces together (hopefully).  Any recommendations for locating/fitting the four that are buried in the flywheel/clutch housing as I suspect they will be "awkward"?

 

Any recommendations for starting after I get it all back together? What's the easiest way to get oil back round the engine prior to starting or doesn't it matter. I was obviously changing the oil and filter anyway.

 

To cap it all about 10 minutes after I had dragged the tube off my wife's Fiesta dumped all the power steering fluid when a pipe came off and had to be towed to the garage.

 

......and I still haven't won the lottery!

[seatkid]

Personally I would use the spray brake cleaner I always use (Toolstation - about £2.30 a can) - which is a good solvent plus kitchen roll.

 

I note the recomended sealant  D 176 404 A2 is a silicone base sealer, instructions being to apply a bead no thicker than about 3mm to prevent bits of sealant dropping into the sump and potentially getting picked up by the oil pump and fit the sump within 5 minutes, i.e. before it skins significantly. The bead should run on the inner side of the sump holes.

 

Again personally I'd probably use this sealant

 

 

http://volkswagen.workshop-manuals.com/polo-mk4/index.php?id=2542

Edited July 14, 2013 by seatkid

[SilverBeast]

Thanks for the prompt response.  

 

I'm using kitchen roll and petrol and can't get anything else at present.  Unfortunately needs must and the sealant was all Motorworld had and I didn't think about degreaser when I was getting the sealant. There is an SAS within 5 minutes in Otley but that was closed yesterday by the time I had my problem.

 

I'll probably add the degreaser etc to my stock of stuff to keep as I've also noticed the inside of the offside front disc is badly scored so replacing those is another job to add to the list.

[seatkid]

toolstation and screwfix branches in Bradford,Keighly and Harrogate all open on Sunday.....

 

Petrol will probably be ok

[SilverBeast]

No cars left!

[SilverBeast]

All back together now.  Leaving it till Tuesday before I refill it though.

[xavier]

how did it go?

[SilverBeast]

All back together and no leaks. Easier than I hoped. Biggest pain was cleaning up the sump and bottom end of engine to ensure a good seal and to make any leaks easier to spot).

I also changed the gearbox oil as well. Front discs, pads and brake fluid replaced today (by garage my trusted mechanic as I don't have a 200lb/ft torque wrench and have had enough for now!). Next is replace rear wheel bearing, adjust gear selection cables to see if it will fix notchy gear change when cold then intermediate drive shaft and finally replace the booster heater as a strip and rebuild didn't fix it.

Oh and need to fix fog light connection on tow socket.

Just separating from wife so also have her house to decorate, this one to fettle and sell, and a new one to find for me. Needs a big garage though for looking after Galaxy though!